A GENUINE SUPER-TERRORIST POSTING ON THE NEWSGROUPS!
Updated 04/29/2008: New and more crucial information proving treason as a Bush war supporter reveals he knows the Patriot Act was designed to destroy the United States, instead of to save it!...
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The following is a synopsis of a very cataclysmic discussion I recently had on the newsgroups with a genuine super-terrorist. I mean a person who has no respect in general for human life. The ideas shown here will be shocking to those who do not understand the issues. The person in discussion against me below has the same mind as most of those who now occupy the US Government, media, military and educational institutions! He is what we call a Vatican (Vat-i-kawn). He is a Catholic, but not any ordinary Catholic. He belongs to one of the secret orders of the Papacy and has been taught to have no natural affection nor no conscience. He is capable of any crime. He is absolutely NOT one of the Catholics you see every day. We call all such Jesuits! To see a statement of the differences, please click here. President Abraham Lincoln once stated: ". . .it is very certain that if the American people could learn what I know of the fierce hatred of the priests of Rome against our institutions, our schools, our most sacred rights, and our so dearly bought liberties, they would drive them away tomorrow from among us, or they would shoot them as traitors. But you [Father Charles Chiniquy] are the only one to whom I reveal these sad secrets for I know that you learned them before me. The history of these last thousand years tells us that wherever the Church of Rome is not a dagger to pierce the bosom of a free nation, she is a stone to her neck, to paralyze her, and prevent her advance in the ways of civilization, science, intelligence, happiness and liberty." -- President Abraham Lincoln, Fifty Years In The Church of Rome, p. 295. President Lincoln also stated that they would work to: ". . .undermine our institutions, alienate the hearts of our people from our Constitution, and our laws, destroy our schools, and prepare a reign of anarchy here as they have done in Ireland, in Mexico, in Spain, and wherever there are any people who want to be free, etc." -- President Abraham Lincoln, Fifty Years in the Church of Rome, p. 296, 297. "Is it not an absurdity to give to a man a thing which he is sworn to hate, curse, and destroy? And does not the Church of Rome hate, curse, and destroy liberty of conscience whenever she can do it safely? I am for liberty of conscience in its noblest, broadest, highest sense. But I cannot give liberty of conscience to the Pope and to his followers, the Papists, so long as they tell me, through all their councils, theologians, and canon laws, that their conscience orders them to burn my wife, strangle my children, and cut my throat when they find their opportunity! This does not seem to be understood by the people today. But sooner or later, the light of common sense will make it clear to every one that no liberty of conscience can be granted to men who are sworn to obey a Pope, who pretends to have the right to put to death those who differ from him religion." -- President Abraham Lincoln, Fifty Years in the Church of Rome, Chapter 60.
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Some terrible statements against liberty and the lives of non-Catholics have been made by the person we are examining and presentiing to you below. There were other Catholics on the newsgroups observing and who have used the argument that those Catholics who clearly show their hatred for liberty and the US Constitution do not properly represent the Catholic Church. However, for a long time I was the only one upset about the statements that were made. If the person being discussed below misrepresents Rome, any Catholic should become upset at him. That did not happen! All those that were there defended him and attacked me for reproving his total lack of natural affection and conscience.
http://www.TheirSecrets.info/AC/AppealChapSeeberI.htm
BACK IN RECENT HISTORY WITH THIS MAN!
When told how long this September 11th terrorist incident took to plan and implement compared to others that were planned quicker and yet caught, Ted Seeber said: “There have been plenty of successfull terrorist attacks against US interests where the terrorists stayed legal until the attack.” We find this difficult to believe since we know that America had been considered a haven against terrorism and how this was surely mentioned by all our news media as they were describing the impact of this unprecedented act of terrorism. Seeber tells us that: The current Constitutional principles of liberty are incredibly outdated and stupid. He said the principle is as old as the 1500s with Martin Luther. When did his principles for no liberty or privacy originate? We asked him this question again and again and he pretended that we did not ask it. When Christians reveal the Vatican hatred of religious liberty of conscience and expose her continual conspiracy through infiltration of our nation and the nations of the world, despot Vatican Catholics like Seeber tell the world that we hate the Catholic people. How long was this practice used? Since he told us that our principles of liberty are outdated, how outdated is the constant reflex habit that exposing people who slowly tortured Christians to death makes one hateful of Catholics and more a criminal than the people who committed the atrocities themselves? How outdated it is? Seeber said that the terrorist incident provided a benefit to us in that, “we found out that privacy is not a luxury we can afford just yet.” Notice that he said “we” volunteering all opinions for us and not allowing us to disagree. He includes himself among us as if he is one of us even though he hates liberty for everything else except him and his church. He doesn’t think like us nor agree with us, but he includes himself in our communion. He gets upset when we say he is a despot. AFTER he already told us a year before on the newsgroups that “liberty is useless and only causes schism.” We therefore asked again and again the question we have for our new American government: “If the Citizens of America agree to give up their liberties in order to take out terrorism, what will happen after terrorism is conquered? Will we get our liberties back? Seeber has indeed answered that question for us. Soon Seeber began to lie to us telling us that what he said about liberty being useless is just and only his opinion and that I should not get upset about it or believe it. The problem is that there is documentation showing that his church does believe that liberty is useless and only causes schism. Seeber accuses us of aiding and supporting the terrorists because we believe that liberty and privacy is more important than stopping Bin Laden. He despots us to believe that Bin Laden will only be caught if privacy is eliminated. Seeber tells all that Osama Bin Laden is my Idol because I determined that the American citizens must retain their liberties. In Seeber telling us that Privacy is outdated. He tells us that we should provide all our private information to the government. Our emails should not be private. Even our apartments that we rent, since we did not build them, we should allow our landlords the rights to go in and out as they please and to do what they want. Privacy and liberty are not inseparable. Those who contend for privacy are criminals. Seeber claims that I support the terrorists because I oppose the citizens giving up their privacy and liberties. He says that I support those who would destroy liberty. When I replied that I don’t support Seeber (who would destroy liberty), he asked if I support the American citizens living their lives as if nothing had happened. Well no I don’t. I want the citizens to remember this terrorist attack as I want them to remember the worst terrorist attacks during the Dark Ages. But as Seeber told everyone that I support terrorism because I support the citizens living as if nothing has happened, you can see that he also condemned President Bush for saying that America should continue living on their lives and that we will not allow terrorists to limit the freedoms of Americans. Others have falsely claimed that Ted Seeber doesn't represent Catholic thought, but this is not the fact. Although Ted Seeber already has argued against liberty for all non-Catholics, he has shown just as Rome has that he believes in a different type of liberty. Check for example this Catholic statement of her position on this matter: "The church does not, and cannot accept, or in any degree favor, liberty IN THE PROTESTANT SENSE OF LIBERTY." -- (Catholic World, April, 1870. Ted Seeber, in another occasion talks about "fake liberty" after telling us that liberty itself is useless and "only causes schism." He is therefore showing that he supports a different kind of liberty even though he has before condemned the concept entirely. Ted Seeber charges Ted McMillan with aiding terrorists through his support of the rights of the citizens of America to keep their liberties. He says that by Ted McMillan’s determination along this line, he provides, “Aid and comfort to the enemy, is what you said and did.” But he gets upset if people say he’s a despot. Ted McMillan asked if we are entering a government now when those who tell us that “liberty is useless and only causes schism” are freedom lovers and those who are apalled by such words are terrorists? Seeber replies, “Yep. Been that way for 40-odd years now.” Why then is he calling for change to that setting if he now tells us it is and has already been like that? After Ted McMillan said that those who believe “liberty is useless and only causes schism” are the ones who believe in depopulation, Seeber said, “Really? You don't believe in depopulation? Then what are all those guns for?” He is against the rights to bear arms which was instituted as a last resort to the Citizens of America in case they find themselves suddenly confronting a tyrannical United States government through infiltration, having people who think like Seeber all throughout it as it is today. But Seeber well knows that the US military and the UN has lots of guns and far more devices of destruction INCLUDING STICKY STRIPS. These are spread along highways and arteries where people can enter or leave populated areas. They get stuck there and can’t move. The criteria Seeber gave was that if you own guns or support the ownership of it, you believe in depopulation. But Seeber gets upset when we say he is a despot. Why is the government planning a depopulation of the citizenry then based upon Seeber's statements and based upon the fact that those of the New World Order are disarming everybody else BUT THEMSELVES?? Seeber says: I know you have a Jihad against America because you support an outdated and incredibly stupid interpretation of the Constitution, [the “interpretation that always was] and because you support the taking up of arms against your own government even in times of war. Ted McMillan: Ted Seeber knows the following very well, but he is working to deliberately deceive the readers here. The framers of the Constitution allowed for the citizens of America to be armed in case, through infiltration, the American Government turns into a tyrannical government. I assure all of you that the framers of the Constitution do not have a Jihad against America. The guns are for the citizens to protect themselves against despots like Seeber who would at times claim themselves that they would infiltrate the government and work to change it till it hates and outlaws liberty. Seeber even admitted this very thing concerning himself. Ted McMillan: > Yes, I am on the
side of those who love liberty. Where have I said Ted Seeber: Ted McMillan’s comment: Take note folks that he told us we shouldn’t have rights to privacy “just yet” when he was in deceive mode. He now again shows us we were to NEVER have it, for he claims it is nowhere in the Constitution. He tells us privacy rights aren’t in the constitution, yet he is just one of a vast army working to change the Constitution so that it can take away the privacy rights. Where else have we seen thinking like Seeber’s? Have any of you studied the Communists? Have any of you studied the Nazis? If Seeber’s principles are so great, please show us how these regimes were great throughout history. Where is the benefit of them compared to America? Let us see if Vatican Inquisitors, Communists, Facists, Nazis or Seeber can learn anything even in lessons over the span of thousands of years! How come you can’t see that the sources which told us there is an indelible connection between Communism, Fascism, Nazism and every other horrible regime to the Vatican is fact?? “Well Seeber doesn’t speak for the Catholic Church” the “Ends Justifies the Means” people would say. Well then why not then get upset at Seeber? Instead all emotion is only on Ted McMillan. That is VERY revealing! Seeber says that he destroys communities and builds them: He says that he works against the government in order to reform it from the inside in “acceptable confines”, but though Ted McMillan is in agreement with the present makeup of government, he is in a Jihad against it. Anyone who repeats this fact about Seeber as Jack Chick and others tell us, will be charged with being “Anti-Catholic” and with hating Catholics. How come Seeber is not being charged here? All this shows that ROME HAS NOT CHANGED! Despot Catholics like Seeber would never think of providing such unlimited power to the free American government throughout its history. History doesn't show them strengthening the US government. Why are they so eager and determined that that be done now? That is because most of those in government are infiltrants from or trained directly or indirectly by Rome. When good officials retire or leave they are replace by many who are not.. Most of those in government are now secretly loyal to the Pope and would break any American or Constitutional principle in a heartbeat at his command irregardless of any oath that they have made. They could not do this so readily historically because there were many true Americans who also held posts side them and who would either stop them or report what they were doing. As prophecy is about to be fulfilled, NOW THAT POPULATION OF TRUE AMERICANS IS ALMOST NON-EXISTENT. They have retired, have been dismissed, have been killed, or otherwise just are not there anymore. Some have resigned in protest of the new outlaw movements. HERE NOW IS THE HORRIBLE STATEMENT MADE BY TED SEEBER DEMONSTRATING THAT ROME HAS NOT CHANGED. I reprove despot Seeber for gloating over the dead bodies of the Protestants! The following is the actual statement and reply: Ted McMillan: > Ted Seeber: Ted McMillan: Again, despot: WHY IS THE POPE APOLOGIZING!! You have just sent us your bigoted despot opinions without providing any MAYBEES! Why not try to prove what you are saying against me using the scriptures then? How often have you even answered my questions? Thousands of people lost their lives in the World Trade Center disaster. How many of them lived by the bible? They were not even in rural settings nor under persecution. All those in the WTC were products of the modern revolution. [Seeber complained that through Protestantism and the "liberties" she claims the world must have, the present day is filled with all kinds of moral pollution. If that is true, and if it is true that the Protestants were gladly killed because they did not live the bible as he just told us, Ted Seeber has gladly condemned the victims of the September 11 attacks to damnation and demonstrated that they deserve to be persecuted and killed. He has shown that he is a super-terrorist]. I would even say
that most of them believe that homosexual activity is acceptable behavior.
They all lived in the modern age and are products of it. I can bet you
that homosexuality was not a problem for those who were slain by Rome!
I don't care whether or not they lived by the bible according to a murderous
despot! --------------------
For making these statements, I have been constantly attacked by Vatican Cindy Ford, Angelo Braz and Paul Tooley Jr. who all falsely claim to be Adventists and post on the newsgroups, particularly the Adventist newsgroup: alt.religion.christian.adventist Their discussion specifically and intentionally leaves out their fellow soldier of the Pope, Ted Seeber, and they have even demanded that I not refer to Ted Seeber in any discussion despite his very revealing comment involving the blood of the Saints. They moved upon me telling the world how I am mean and uncivil. They then went beyond themselves and posted the most absurd and insulting posts against me. Angelo Braz even headed a post entitled, "Ted McMillan: An Incomprehensible Man With a Twisted Mind!" He was there saying that I am a rare person that you don't see everyday. I am "incomprehensible." He claims that I am rude. None of you have ever seen a rude person in your lives if even the ACCUSATION is true? How often do you see a man who gloats that millions of Christians have been killed? Isn't such a person "incomprehensible?" These all have staged a crusade against accusations. They then followed against me with accusations as if they never told us we are not to accuse. None of them dared say a word against Ted Seeber. Even Angelo Braz said concerning Ted Seeber, "I said he was wrong. But..." They spent much manhours posting against me in every way possible. Even their rules for civility were gladly compromised. These all claim to be Adventists. I have asked Vatican Cindy a simple question. She moves heaven and earth to evade it but later claims that she has answered it. Below is the question and check the threads in order to see how she has answered it. She has moved heaven and earth to evade and avoid it and then finally lied by telling us that she has answered it. The statement of Ted Seeber not only condemned the religion Cindy Ford falsely claims to be a part of, but because of her claims, his statements also condemns her life. The same is true for Vatican Angelo Braz. They have played the Jesuit and done everything possible to avoid the very plain and clear question while claiming that they have answered it.
For the Work Finished!
Ted McMillan
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