JESUITS DOMINATE THE SEVENTH-DAY ADVENTIST
CHURCH!
PART III
NEW! More Jesuit thoughts penned in the new Sabbath School Lessons for the New Year!
A GREAT AND TERRIBLE SORROW WILL ENGULF ESPECIALLY SEVENTH-DAY ADVENTISTS IN JUST THE NEAR FUTURE. Let's see if we can identify this situation and at least soften the impact of what is about to take place.
DO ADVENTISTS
CONCENTRATE ON END-TIME PROPHECY "TOO MUCH?" NEW ADDITION!
NEW
The Horrifying Ignorance of the Adventist People, Part 3!
The Adventist people
live life as usual expecting that the Lord would even feed them in the Time of
Trouble even without them making any physical preparations.
NEW! When Should Adventists Take Flight?
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Probing the concept of understanding that, as the end draws near, people are not
what they supposed to be recognized by what they claim to be, but by the
positions they hold within their hearts.
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Probing how to tell what a man is by what he believes and what positions he
holds, part 2.
How
the Worldwide Church of God was Destroyed!
WHAT HAPPENED TO THE WORLDWIDE CHURCH OF GOD: A LESSON-BOOK FOR EVERY
CHURCH OR ORGANIZATION UNDERGOING CHANGE!
Examining shocking and disruptive changes that took place against the
Worldwide Church of God after the founder of that organization died and how it
relates to similar changes in other churches and especially the Seventh-day
Adventist Church.
Jesuits Infiltrated the Seventh-Day Adventist Church and Now Dominate it
Jesuits infiltrated the Seventh-day Adventist Church and now horribly dominate
it.
Strange Religion and Worship Literally Concocted Within the Seventh-day
Adventist Church
The Celebration Movement and concept of "worship styles" examined.
More truth about the "Progressive" Adventists"!
A "Progressive" Adventist speaks and proves that he sticks around Seventh-day
Adventists in order to cause trouble and demand they change and retract their
beliefs!
THE HIDDEN
POWER BEHIND THE NEW BIBLE VERSIONS!
The most crucial part of the danger of the new bible versions hardly discussed
anywhere else! WHY WOULD YOU WANT TO READ BIBLE TRANSLATIONS THAT WERE
CREATED BY PEOPLE WHO ARE LOST??
The Horrifying Ignorance of the Adventist People...
There is no ignorance as
horrifying as suffocating ADVENTIST IGNORANCE!
The Horrifying Ignorance of the Adventist People, Part 2!
Strange ideas God's people have about the sign to leave and take flight from the
cities!
The Horrifying Ignorance of the Adventist People, Part 3!
The Adventist
people live life as usual expecting that the Lord would even feed them in the
Time of Trouble even without them making any physical preparations.
The Horrifying Ignorance of the Adventist People, Part 4!
A terrible sorrow will engulf especially Adventists in the near future when they
will suddenly be jailed and will not be able to present the truths of their
faith even to fellow prisoners. Their bibles and all their witnessing
materials will be taken away from them.
Sabbath School Lessons Containing the Political Agenda of the Jesuits in the
Seventh-day Adventist Church!
Sabbath School lessons push the "new" movements and "worship styles"
concepts, and therefore attacks veteran Adventists who oppose them. It
then raises doubts about the authority of Ellen White.
Defending Ellen G. White from the doubts raised against her even by Adventist
officials!
Ellen White defended against the doubts raised against her. Anyone who
attacks or dilutes or puts to doubt the authority of Ellen White, attacks far
more than her and including the Lord Jesus Christ Himself.
Conclusion about the issue of labels and finding true identity!
More indepth study to see the ramifications of not understanding how to tell who
people are. Showing how our society is being regressed and destroyed by
people all among us, who are not what they claim to be, and who support the
opposite agenda from even what they are elected to accomplish.
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IS THE ADVENTIST DENOMINATION INFILTRATED BY THE JESUITS OF ROME?? http://www.seventh-dayadventism.com/JesChecklist.htm Most definitely, most positively, most absolutely!! Statement:
We have seen on the
Jesuit Infiltration website
that despots usually first approach their victims expressing a desire to have
all kinds of free opinions on virtually every subject flying around. This is
biblically called "confusion," so to get away with it, they have to substitute
another name to make it look palatable to their victims. They therefore chose
the word "DIVERSITY." That way while debating, they can infiltrate positions of
power which will give the last word on changes that must be enforced against the
people.
Question:
Did the leadership of the
Seventh-day Adventist Church do this? Did they encourage all kinds of diverse
opinions and pretended to be wishy-washy? |
Ok, now we're into another phase. We had already described that the Seventh-day Adventist Church decided to take all kinds of measures against all who refused to accept the movement that she was forcing upon them. She, of course, denied that she was doing these things. She first pushed confusion upon her environs by establishing pro and con debate structures in all her media and even her pulpits. Even topics that were formerly not a matter of debate evolved into conflicting beliefs and theories based upon their insistence that these things must be that way even in the books that she sold. One such topic was the nature of Christ. People have witnessed books that stated that Christ came to the earth in our nature, being behooved to be made like unto His brethren. Other books appeared that stated how Christ came in a sinless nature that had nothing to do with ours. All these issues have already been amply answered in her historical literature, but since we are dealing with the Jesuits and already saw how persistently they will work to preserve error and preserve people who believe all non-Catholics must die, and obey the Jesuit Oath that requires RELENTLESS warfare against Christians, so the advantage acquired by the Seventh-day Adventist Church in the clear writings of her history must be negated in every subtle or even open way. As many arguments that could be created about most all Adventist beliefs were created and brought up in her modern literature. It was just these things alone that caused much dissatisfaction among those members who knew what this church was about and the principles they pledged loyalty to when they acquired membership.
The best way the denomination worked to confuse her members was as we had described. They pushed the concept of diversity so that as many conflicting theories and opinions can be held and voiced as possible. As we have shown to have taken place in civil society, the purpose was to establish that anyone recognizing that an internal conspiracy was taking place against the body through being familiar with the established WRITTEN marching orders of the church, as with the state, and therefore objecting to that conspiracy, is merely just expressing his opinion. This, besides confusing the people in these entities, is why these concepts were forced upon society. When the members or citizens are canceled out by entertaining conflicting theories, only the leaders of these entities have the final say. These are then going to demand changes that turn back the clock, and this will be covered up by their claims that we are "moving forward." Among the means to push this confusion is to classify everything: to rate every idea to a class that is often created by themselves.
There wound up being members that wanted to restore the historic positions of the church. This is identical with the issue of American Patriots who desperately want the Constitution to again be restored to what it was. Then there were members who wanted and struggled hard for the church to CHANGE, as is the case with American government and Ted Seeber. Because of this the denomination suddenly came out with some wild news. They began to push that there were essentially three classes of Adventists: the Traditionalists, the Evangelicals, and the Liberals. The Traditionalists they said were those who lived in the past, who were legalistic and who wanted to maintain the historic positions of the church. These were the veteran members, and here they are usually equated with the Pharisees. The Liberals were those who wanted the church to change to look more fashionable to the rest of the world. It was never explained to us what the role of the Evangelicals was, but that was another class they made up. These classes materialized because they claimed recently that many different and even divergent behaviors and beliefs must be classified as standard behavior for Seventh-day Adventists, but just different options. But we're just showing how the Adventist people were placed into different cells. They claimed that all three were equally viable options and were all considered the elect of God. The Adventist people bought into this hook, line and sinker. Problem is, no such concept can be found in the bible.
When unbiblical creations such as these are brought up, members seek to correct the problem. They know the problem can be corrected by open dialogue with as many of the members looking on as possible. Unfortunately, the whole way the system has evolved manages to be just like with the federal government: it is organized so that they cannot be confronted for what they do nor the concepts that they push. It is the same like with the soldier that asked Donald Rumsfeld why they are not adequately protected in their war with Iraq. The more both of these entities claim their interests are for democracy or for the people, is the more they create environments where the people cannot ask them the questions that need to be asked. Questions those who lost loved-ones in the 911 tragedy still have not found answers for.
You should notice that the same thing was done in the state field. There are Democrats, Republicans, Independents, Conservatives, Liberals, and, with the proliferation of diversity, other classes came along into the debate pool, such as communists, socialists, etc. demanding that they be given the right to debate their positions irrespective of history. "Worship Styles" entered as a concept, and the time came when they even invented a concept called, "Leadership styles" that depicted there were different kinds of pastors and church leaders. In both church and state, just so long as a person can make an opinion about anything or any issue, someone would step up and say, "Oh, he's a Democrat!" "Oh, he's a liberal!" etc. What does it all mean? In both cases it all means: "OH IT'S JUST HIS OPINIONS!" He only expressed his opinion. His views are therefore isolated and put in tension with all opposing ideas. Then the only result is that society will wind up changing since everyone is neutralized EXCEPT EVERYONE WHO PUT THEM IN THE CLASSES AND EVERYONE WHO PUT THEM INTO DEBATE. And those who did these treacherous things will often be found in key positions of influence and leadership. In both cases, as they change, THEY HEAD TO BACKWARD PRINCIPLES CLOSER AND CLOSER TO THE INQUISITIONS! The general public don't notice this because the backward principles are slight and step-stage, then they are mislabeled as "new" or "progressive."
The purpose is to take power away from the people and put it in the hands of the leaders who will betray their interests. Yet in both cases of church and state, the people who pushed these "cells" of classes upon the people and told us that they all hold equal validity always made determined and concealed warfare against all those who supported or clamored for the historic positions of both church and state. If you don't want CHANGE in state, like it or not, you are especially attacked in civil society by every means possible. If you don't want the Seventh-day Adventist Church to change, you wound up being attacked on the pulpits, in special meetings, and in the modern publications of the Seventh-day Adventist Church. Yet the church leaders did not properly inform the people that the independent ministries that have been so much of a concern to them exclusively featured ONLY that class they claimed was the "Traditionalist" class. The leaders who created this class structure already told us that each class is equally justified in their conflicting ideas, which serves as a reason why they did not confess that the Traditionalist class must be attacked and suppressed since they are exclusively responsible for the creation and sustenance of these ministries--AS WELL AS THE OFFICIAL BODY ITSELF! Their makeup is exclusively members of that class. That class is therefore singled out to this day for attack in every way possible.
The Adventist leaders intentionally placed contemporary music in the sacred worship of the church, knowing that the veteran members they call the Traditionalists would object. What they knew ahead of time is that if they persisted hard and long enough, doing everything possible to continue this behavior while attacking those who would object, those veteran members would not be able to remain in services long deemed to be sacrilegious. The veteran or old members happen to represent the majority of the church. It is that class that actually built and sustained the churches. In order to steal the churches from them, the new and strange ones deliberately incorporated music they well knew the veteran members skilled in the church doctrine could never tolerate. The object was to get them to leave the churches, which is what many of them did. With them gone, they would take control of all even property of the Seventh-day Adventist Church with all its assets AND THEN USE THEM TO ATTACK GENUINE ADVENTISTS AND THE CONCEPT OF SEVENTH-DAY ADVENTISM IN AS MANY WAYS AS POSSIBLE. ONE WAY WOULD BE TO FORCE A NEGLECT OF THE DOCTRINES AND INSTRUCTIONS THAT HAS BEEN HANDED DOWN TO THEM THEY WERE SUPPRESSING IN THE FIRST PLACE THAT CAUSED THE RISING OF THE INDEPENDENT MINISTRIES. NEXT THEY WOULD USE THE ASSETS TO ESTABLISH IN THE THINKING OF ALL EVEN IN THE OUTSIDE WORLD AND COURTS THAT THE ORIGINAL ADVENTISTS THAT LEFT OR WERE KICKED OUT ARE NOT ADVENTISTS! Something is going to submit to the great uniting of the churches that has already shown evil fruit to anyone who has done some study. There must be official statements by the denomination claiming that it will give up all its historical teachings in order to unite with Rome. That can only happen if the property is stolen and seized from true Adventists.
Now the property purchased and sustained by the veteran members have been and still is being used against the very people who sacrificed to get them. Then those committing treason continue to deceive the rest of the members into accepting the future tyrannical movements for ecumenism, or to prevent them from preparing against it. The Seventh-day Adventist Church has a great heritage of documents that detail for them perilous times for the future especially for them, along with what to do about it. These documents even details for them what will happen to them if they fail to prepare AND IF THEY FAIL TO WARN THE WORLD. This is what was being attacked from the beginning. The staggering majority of Adventists largely disregard this instruction, and that includes even the veteran members. After the old members then leave to seek the worship services and training they have always been accustomed to seeing which is constantly suppressed in the denomination in the so-called environment of diversity promised by the leaders, then started the attack on the only other option having those old ways: the independent ministries. Even if separated and rid of those independent ministries from the proximity of other Adventists, it was important for the Adventist leaders to do whatever possible to destroy those beliefs and training for expected perilous times. Hence they cannot leave the independent ministries alone. The independent ministries especially feature that special guidance, while those committing treason in the denomination continue to tout that "Christ is not in that." Adventism as a concept in its truest sense is supported increasingly exclusively by the independent ministries. Therefore the workers of apostasy will be threatened. The independent ministries therefore have to be attacked whether or not anyone, out of diversity, disagrees. The battle from then to this day rested on making sure the whole world knows that the independent ministries and those who support them, ARE NOT SEVENTH-DAY ADVENTISTS! It is crucial for this to be done for their plans to succeed.
It is because of this why we personally, though favoring the independent ministries, discourage Adventists from leaving the official church to attend the services of independent ministries, if they can help it. We have no argument with those who regularly attend the services of the independent ministries since some even were kicked out of the official church for opposing the treason. This we stress, however, should be the last resort, and done after the members in the denomination are thoroughly warned about the implications of what is going on. No one should just slip out and attend the services of the independent ministries while leaving their brethren in the denomination unwarned about what is going on. Interestingly, there are independent ministries that are raised with persistent and obsessive pleas for all true Adventists to leave the services of the official denomination. Generally speaking, we don't trust those ministries, but rather suspect that those are also visibly infiltrated. All of the independent ministries are infiltrated to some extent or the other. No organization is free from the vast armies of the Papacy, but some to more of an extent than others. We believe there are a few which are wholly created by the Jesuits.
The Jesuits, being very knowledgeable for how to destroy organizations, want those who would interrupt their work of internal treason out of Adventist membership with the denomination. That means she wants those Seventh-day Adventist members who are naive to remain and flood the church, while the ones who are loyal and intelligent to leave. It is obvious why.
Question: are the Jesuits more or less intelligent than even some of the independent ministry leaders who want true Adventists to also abandon the denomination? Answer: they are MORE intelligent. They know that it is necessary for loyal and studious Adventists to leave the body for it to be destroyed and for the concept of Adventism itself to die. They know more about the specific movements of disaster than we do here on this website. Often we learned what was going on by watching them and looking even at what they would attack, and we benefited greatly from that. They know more than we. Their belief that the best Adventists must abandon the denomination in order to destroy Adventism is correct, and those who even form independent ministries that agree with this their proposition for abandonment are in error, thinking that abandoning it will protect the concept of Adventism and the truths of the Three Angels Messages.
It is a prickly situation, but a major solution to it, as was mentioned before, is INDIVIDUAL EVANGELISM. You do indeed put your money only where the true work is being done. Money, however, can be translated also into individual work as you appear within the denomination and do what you can to revive the principle in its purity. You are not to just leave and abandon honest souls who still yet don't understand what is going on. You have to develop special ways to get through to them. Success, like with Herbert W. Armstrong's success, will come upon using individual evangelism, and now is the time. The public more prefers unique truths to the fairy tales that are all around them in preparation for the New World Order.
A similar situation exists with the federal government. The more good people leave or retire is the worse off it is for this country. Good American military people who leave, lose power and access to weapons, and give that power over to the wrong people. And still yet, if they remain, their lives may well be in jeopardy.
| "Ye shall believe God,
that plainly speaketh in His word. And
farther than the word teaches you, ye
neither shall believe the one nor the other.
"
-- David Laing, The Collected Works of John Knox, Vol. 2, pp. 281. "WORSHIP STYLES?"... THERE IS NO SUCH ANIMAL!! |
Thus, using the resources that belonged to the people they infiltrated to destroy, strange official leaders in the denomination push to this day that those who demanded the pure Adventist instruction to be prominently upheld before the people are really not Adventists, and then began to teach everywhere possible that those who do not hold membership to the official church are not Adventists. To them, this lie must be proven even in court. They therefore incorporated the name, "Seventh-day Adventist Church" and began to sue ministries that still preached true Adventism and advertised that they were a Seventh-day Adventist Church. The American citizens, who wind up sitting on juries, not knowing a thing about these issues, are not prepared to accept the idea that people who have no official ID card to the denomination are actually the truest Adventists responsible mostly for its construction and sustenance before the infiltration.
Wherever the Jesuits go, they always push the idea of love and concentration only on Christ in order to attack specific prophecies and doctrines that prevents churches from uniting with the One World Global Church under Rome. But as they preach these things, they always show their belief that they are immune to the ideas they teach their enemies. They show superiority in court and political manipulation. It is not easy to contend with them in the court or the board meeting because they will always breathlessly use immoral or illegal tactics, one minute even telling those attending the meetings how they are expected to act, and then breaking those same rules the next moment. They have talents that were not given to them neither through prayer nor Celebrating Christ on the dance floor. These talents are shown wherever political manipulation is necessary. Therefore they now have a habit of using the courts to destroy the people whose denomination they have infiltrated out of their hands. Clear writings can be shown even from the bible declaring these acts treasonous. Adventists are supposed to avoid lawsuits especially against their brethren. But the "that's your opinion" environment they created is the sand in everyone's eyes that makes it difficult to hear any other opinions but their own. Why? BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT BOUND TO THE PRINCIPLES THEY PUSH ON EVERYONE ELSE. And in these descriptions we are showing you why your power as an American citizen has been getting weaker and weaker and weaker by people who kept telling you that you were getting stronger and stronger and stronger.
| The late Dr C. Mervyn Maxwell
reveals the truth about the turbulent war in the Seventh-day Adventist
Church, by showing it was created by leaders in the denomination itself!
Below here is a picture of the "Issues" tract the SDA denomination
published against the independent ministries that protested her betrayal
against the Adventist people as they struggled to change the church and
make it ecumenical.
Perhaps, however, we should say more precisely that certain views which had been held for some time by a small minority were, in the 1950s, reformulated, given new emphasis, and taken up by a group of those Adventists who enjoyed the advantage of attending our schools. I believe in our schools, of course (I teach in one), but I observe that the theological cleavage which exists today among conservative NAD Adventists is largely between those who have studied the writings of non-SDA theologians in our colleges on the one hand and, on the other hand, those who, deprived of an SDA college education, have confined their study mostly to the Bible and the writings of Ellen G. White. I am repeatedly struck with the way new converts, fresh from the study of the Bible and Ellen G. White, side with the older SDA theology, while so-called "second-" and "third-generation" Adventists trend to side with the new theology. . . . Old-theology conservatives such as the editors of Our Firm Foundation [one of the, we are told: "Destructively critical self-supporting ministries"] are frequently criticized for bringing up the issue [concerning the nature of Christ]. BUT LET’S FACE IT: THEY DIDN’T START THE ARGUMENT! The argument was started publicly by the 1949 edition of Bible Readings, by the 1957 publication of Questions on Doctrine, and by certain Seminary professors and others in the years that followed. And the pot has been kept boiling by the new-theology liberals and conservatives, who now control several of our magazines and colleges. ONE RECALLS THE OLD QUIP, "YOU STARTED THE FIGHT WHEN YOU HIT ME BACK." The fact that new-theology people control the chief NAD [North American Division or branch or sector of the church] publications and colleges represents choices made by entities of the NAD. Choices involve consequences. If NAD entities have chosen such editors and presidents, NAD must expect a reaction. It is in my opinion irresponsible and unsportsmanlike for NAD to choose partisans of new-theology views which have not been officially accepted by the General Conference and then cry foul when loyal church members publish evidence in favor of the old-theology views which they committed themselves to when they became Seventh-day Adventists. I have just spoken about the convictions of people who adopted certain understandings when they became Seventh-day Adventists. If church leadership thinks the time has come to teach different views from the views being taught when these people became Seventh-day Adventists, that is one thing. But to treat people as rebellious, heretical, disloyal, and legalist because they choose to continue to believe what they sincerely committed themselves to years ago, seems gross and boorish. |
"Worship styles", traditionalists, evangelicals, liberals: As we describe these things to you, we are confined to mention their terminology in the classes they have created so that even other Seventh-day Adventist members can understand what we are talking about. For us to even accept the idea that there are different classes of Adventists is to accept an unbiblical position, and is to also engage in a sort of worshipping the leaders who brought these fabrications upon us. If not for the fact that others would not understand what we mean and understand the so-called classes that have been created, we would not even mention these names, because, even in the concept of Seventh-day Adventism, they are not valid. Neither will the determined pushing of these concepts by the most supreme of positions in the church make these concepts valid.
The denomination thence began to more and more step up their concern and their attacks against the independent ministries while they were again and again pushing the strange movements on the body. She soon pushed a major propaganda campaign against the independent ministries in a piece of literature called, "Issues." This was a piece of literature that bore no one's name as the author. It was a document that set the stage for continuing to disfellowship faithful Seventh-day Adventists. It began to say that if there is a human body infected with a cancer, we would have different options of what we are to do about it. It claimed that we can ignore the problem and go into denial, or we can remove the problem. We were able to see the intentions toward the independent ministries AND ALL THOSE WHO SUPPORTED THEM. Just as on the newsgroups, the cancer or the virus assumes the characteristics of the good cells and begins to describe their own characteristics upon the good cells. It is part of the "Big Lie" technique that the Jesuits used even in the Nazi regime during WWII. Yet from the beginning, when concerned members complained to the leaders about escalating apostasy, they were told that they must allow "the wheat and the tares to grow together." They were not to worry about any such thing, because God would take care of the situation, and because God is big enough to handle it.
This publication went into every form of attack against the independent ministries. Even during divine service, ministers pushed that the members were to read this publication and to understand the great threat these independent ministries posed to "God's church." Before it was issued however, we got a report that said certain of the church leaders were soliciting support from all other church leaders to individually lend their influence to condemn these ministries. This was to be collected and included in the propaganda publication. In the process of them doing this, there was one very respected church leader familiar with all that was going on who would have no part of it. His name was the late Dr. C. Mervyn Maxwell.
To the disappointment of those who were about to pursue this, Dr. Maxwell wrote a letter to one of the key officials in the denomination, telling him that he will not help them in their endeavors, and then confirming for everyone what really caused all the problems. The letter was advising them not to pursue their intents and attacks upon the independent ministries. A small portion of his words are in the box to the right. There is confirmed what we had earlier said about "Letters to the Editor," where our major publication encouraged debate, but then began to boldly siphon out letters that supported the historic and anti-ecumenical positions the church had always held. They were asked about this unfairness, but naturally lied about it and naturally continued in it, in essence taunting us with the question, "Well what are you gonna do about it?" Even though Dr. Maxwell's letter advised them against creating the publication, they still created it anyway. After a while these leaders stopped publishing this publication once they understood that it actually did more damage to the reputation of the official church than anything else. As you can see by what is written, this prominent SDA theologian stated plainly that those whom they regarded as "offshoots", "rabble-rousers", and even "cult members" in their new era of anti-criticism, WERE LOYAL ADVENTISTS!
The frequent charges against the independent ministries were that they were critical, bigoted, dogmatic and hateful. These charges turned out to be the mirrored image of what we would later be accused of on the newsgroups by the even admitted Jesuits. To most effectively return to their history, the Jesuits have to constantly accuse their enemies of what they always were and are. The cumulative efforts of attack against the independent ministries from the denomination claimed that these ministries are of Satan and that they live to attack "God's church." These charges themselves, if people are savy enough, would work out to show that the denomination itself was the cause of the problems. Why put the people in a pluralistic environment, encouraging all kinds of diverse ideas none of which can definitely be called TRUTH because people disagree, if you are going to then start a propaganda campaign against the independent ministries hosting accusations you pretend people can disagree with? This is a question even those sitting in the juries of our legal systems need to know!
| Just one of many
examples showing the comments of historical Adventist leaders who accepted
the Protestant position on doctrine and the value of the scriptures compared
with the church leaders of the SDA Church today who caused turmoil through
demanding illicit and unannounced revolution. This consideration
emphasizes that the scriptures were actually given to the church in order to
guide them into definite principles and not according to Jesuit tactics
against their enemies telling them the scriptures were made in order to
create rousing debate forums. Ellen White, the most prominent known
historical leader within the Seventh-day Adventist Church, commented about
the nature of Christ's teachings: All who heard the Saviour were astonished at His doctrine: for His word was with power. He taught them as one having authority, and not as the Scribes. Luke 4:32; Matt. 7:29. While His teaching was simple, He spoke as one having authority. This characteristic set His teaching IN CONTRAST with that of all others. The rabbis spoke with doubt and hesitancy, as if the Scriptures might be interpreted to mean one thing or exactly the opposite. The hearers were daily involved with greater uncertainty. BUT JESUS TAUGHT THE SCRIPTURES AS OF UNQUESTIONABLE AUTHORITY. WHATEVER HIS SUBJECT, IT WAS PRESENTED WITH POWER, AS IF HIS WORDS COULD NOT BE CONTROVERTED. -- Desire of Ages p. 253. This was the way the church was since the creation of the world. They declared, as did the independent ministries that inspiration was not created to debate upon, but to give solid and sure guidance. Now consider this example held in high-handed contrast with the example just given of Jesus. This is, according to the leaders of the SDA Church today that illegally demanded revolution, the stated position of our church today. In the "Issues" tract against the independent ministries that opposed their treason, written by New Theology leadership figures, we examined this statement on page 5: "It is not the purpose of this statement to provide a theological rebuttal to the views held by members of Hope International. [Our comment: Hope International is one of those independent ministries.] The issues of the conflict over the nature of Christ and righteousness by faith are not nearly as straightforward as adherents to Hope International would have them appear. Both Scripture and Ellen White contain statements THAT SEEM TO SUPPORT VARYING VIEWPOINTS, AND THESE MUST BE HELD IN TENSION WITH EACH OTHER. They provide a lifetime of study and prayerful meditation, but not room for dogmatism." -- "Issues" tract against the independent ministries, pg. 5 |
If you were to make a comparison between the current Seventh-day Adventist denomination and the independent ministries, the box to the right would be right on the mark. The first actual quote represents the thoughts and the demands of the independent ministries. These independent ministries, like the entire history of the church, demanded sure direction and instruction. Therefore their messages had a unifying influence.
Contrary to that, the denomination, after being constantly infiltrated, began to constantly hold before the people the so-called benefits of diverse opinions. The second quotation in the box to the right is what represents the transformed denomination. There were church leaders telling us that a subject that was formerly settled, needs to be studied forever and held "in tension" forever. It was saying that it is a topic for study, but that no one is to expect a final solution to the problem. Go swim the English Channel. Why? Don't know. You cannot dare to expect to get to the other side. They told us that though the topic had no solution (and they forced us to believe this lie) they claimed the topic should be studied anyway. Can't you see this is the play done in civil society by the government also? Can't you see this is even the reason why the government also is increasing her misbehavior?
The subject revealed was the nature of Christ. Historic church literature talked about the topic often and didn't suffer from schisms. Every effort was made to cloud up this fact. The concept that beliefs and opinions MUST be held in tension with each other within the denomination were clearly documented Jesuit tactics created to destroy their enemies. This concept of putting beliefs in tension IS CLEARLY UNBIBLICAL.
What you are viewing is a clear similarity between tactics played against the Adventist people and tactics played upon the American people. Confusion was pushed. After that has been soaked into the people, naturally their foundations would then be challenged first with subtlety, and then more and more boldly as the American people become dumbed down. The more they accepted the changes is the bolder those pushing them grew.
In both cases of treason in church and state, both professed to be tolerant, but were shown to be intolerant. Both enacted measures to force-change the bodies they stole positions within that Ted Seeber already told us was for REFORM. Both professed to be concerned for the interests and wants of the people touting "democracy" or "diversity." Interestingly enough, both refused to have fair audiences to face their enemies in the clear view of the people, but instead became more and more secretive. The independent ministries were dying to have their cases be reviewed publicly by the Adventist people since to this day this is not possible with the church structure and media. In such a situation, their case can only be the better. The Adventist Church leaders always consistently made sure they avoided getting into direct debate with their enemies so that the people can judge what is taking place in order to CLEAR UP THE DISPUTES. The words there are "clear up": or words which are contrary to the diversity they always claimed to support. The same is true with our national leaders as opposed to the American forefathers, some leaders of Patriot publications, militia leaders, etc. Both entities (church leaders and state leaders) are severely distrusted by their constituents while these leaders claim to hold what their subordinates think supremely. The many appeals that had accumulated in Adventist literature begging the members to trust the leadership, shows that they are more distrusted now than at any other time in their history. This does not stop their treasonous drives against denominational principle. They could hold audiences and referendums to inquire on the fact that earth-shattering percentages of the world's population not only do not trust them, but believe they are complicit with the 911 tragedy, will not make them interested in what the people think, though they claim to have even attacked Iraq in the name of "Global Democracy." We are confident that anyone in conspiracy or treason knows that the more people talk about it, is the worse their situation will be.
| Two Top Jesuits Documents that Give
Instructions that Caused the Suffering of True Adventists George Anderson and James Crumley Jr. talk about the work of the two Jesuits in their book called, "Promoting Unity"... "In contrast to this, Rahner's and Fries' [two top Jesuits, in their book "Unity of the Church" detailing how the churches are to unite (churches that do not belong to them)] attention focuses on the HIERARCHICAL, juridical, and institutional. Unification is seen as proceeding from TOP to BOTTOM, from HIGHER levels to LOWER ones. Perhaps the most vivid indication of this is when they argue that Protestants on the whole are just as PASSIVE in their church membership as Catholics, and therefore can be expected to FOLLOW THEIR LEADERS INTO UNION WITH ROME." -- Promoting Unity; George Anderson, James Crumley, Jr. [Heinrich Fries and Karl Rahner confirm and now speak in their book, "Unity of the Church"...] "However, even if one recognizes a significant difference in parish life between Catholic and Protestant congregations, with respect to ecclesiastical leadership the average congregation in the Protestants churches in fact usually practices the kind of OBEDIENCE TO THEIR CHURCH LEADERS that is customary in the Roman Catholic Church. Therefore one should not overestimate the danger of a REBELLION AT THE GRASS ROOTS' AGAINST THEIR ECCLESIASTICAL LEADERS decisions regarding unification. On the basis of their theological expertise and their religious conscience, the representatives of this ecclesiastical leadership can decide in favor of church unity and can also work with sufficient zeal among the church members to gain their understanding for this decision. -- Unity of the Church, Heinrich Fries, Karl Rahner [Notice that these Jesuits are not speaking nor giving instructions for Catholic Churches! Catholic Churches ALWAYS accepted and pushed ecumenism. It has always been an exclusively papal concept! Notice what they call opposition to illegal revolutions leaders will cause in the Protestant Churches: REBELLION! The book was saying that it is necessary to make churches after a HIERARCHICAL ORDER to accomplish the needed changes. That means that the churches must be ruled by the MEN instead of the bible or their written principles that flow after it. Their positions and ID cards must be the determining factor that makes them Adventists, Episcopalians, Baptists, Methodists, etc. Any who loses membership from these organizations, even because they want the principles they had always respected to be restored CANNOT BE MEMBERS! A former President of the SDA Church, testified in court outside of the hearing of the Adventist people, hence his boldness. He would not have said the following words he did boldly if he knew the Adventist people were all hearing this loud and clear...] "Although it is true that there was
a period in the life of the Seventh-day Adventist Church when the
denomination took a distinctly anti-Roman Catholic viewpoint...that
attitude on the church's part was nothing more than a manifestation of
widespread anti-popery among conservative Protestant denominations in
the early part of this century and the latter part of the last, and
which has now been consigned to the historical trash heap so far as the
Seventh-day Adventist Church is concerned." (Neal C. Wilson, past
president of the Seventh-day Adventist General Conference, Court
Transcript of United States vs the Seventh-day Adventist Church, Equal
Employment Opportunity Commission vs the Pacific Press Publishing
Association and the General Conference, Reply Brief for Defendants, p 4,
Civil Case #74-2025 CBR, presided over by Judge Charles B. Renfrew, U.S.
District Court, San Francisco, California, 1974-1975.) [That means, as had been a cause of contention for the longest time, the leaders can do what they want and can summon illegal changes even. No Adventist is to quote neither from the bible nor anything else to contradict what they demand. No longer under Protestant principles, but under Catholic ones!] |
That is why they claimed it is necessary to have environments of free debate. As people protested their actions and realized they were promoting treason against the institutions they were infesting, they launched propaganda campaigns complete with judgments against those who protested against them, then with no regard for that debating environment they claimed was necessary. As people even began to become aware that they were indeed in treason, they continued to escalate the very things that caused the disruption and distrust. The more people complained and showed disgust was the more they pushed their antics. It worked out that those who were causing the state of unrest in these bodies very easily accused the innocent party of their crimes. In the Adventist Church, those who had captured position kept accusing the independent ministries of being "divisive." The treason in state yields accusations of being "conspiracy theorists," then follows continual and growing government coverups, lies, misbehavior of every sort, all even defended by stooges placed on the free media to show the world why misbehavior of the federal government gets worse and worse. It is a conditioning process. Both entities are conditioning their enemies within the organizations they are supposed to support. Both entities misbehave as shown by the written foundations of the institutions they are pledged to support. Both deliberately misbehave, doing things that are not even necessary. They actually STRUGGLE to misbehave, giving true and honest reporting agencies constant ammunition to expose more! The object is to get all the witnesses to tolerate it and thereby TO GET USED TO IT! The latest that took place now was Cindy Sheehan being arrested at the place where President Bush was to give his State of the Union address. She was arrested for wearing a T-Shirt that counted the number of troops dead. The police apologized later, as will always be the case. You think the police didn't already know the backlash? You think they didn't already know what they were doing and the repercussions? Instantly the incident is taken to the debate board where the fifth-column army oathed to lengthen out all arguments and bellow lies to the end, dwell!
Both have already constructed systems to deal with those who protest or who can threaten to stop their misbehavior. Therefore the monotonous reality. Both entities without rest or stop begin a campaign to attack those who recognize their misbehavior, teaching everyone to accept their treason. The observing public are made increasingly busy even through economic manipulation and are then pre-occupied, even laughing amongst themselves in retreat, claiming that both sides say different things, therefore it has nothing to do with them! The more this continues is the more the protesting voices get softer and softer and softer. In the conditioning process, Americans are more and more dumbed-down and trained NOT TO CHECK ANYTHING OUT! THIS IS VERY VERY SIGNIFICANT, AND THIS FACT IS SINGLED OUT IN A BIBLICAL WARNING FOR THE LAST DAYS AGAINST THE PEOPLE OF THE WORLD: "DO NOT WORSHIP THE BEAST!" If you don't know how to effectively check the issues out in the overpowering confusion going on today that signals the onslaught of a new and horrible regime, YOU WILL WORSHIP THE BEAST! The idea is that to check what is going on is too laborious with all the fabulous theories spued around them all the time. Then is the more the Adventist people and the American people suffer and suffer. As they refuse to check things out, they are suffering and are not being aware of what is afflicting them, even at the gas pumps! In this state, THEY ARE LIABLE IN THE FUTURE TO POINT IN THE WRONG DIRECTION TO PUT THE BLAME ON WHAT THEY THINK IS CAUSING THEM SUFFERING. THE BIBLE TALKS SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THIS POINT AGAINST THE PEOPLE OF THE PLANET! Now it is to the point where they are suffering economically, morally, and in every other way, yet they cannot even see it!... on the road to TYRANNY AND TERROR, BACK TO THE INQUISITIONS!
Luke 21:25 And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity...
The nations are perplexed because the problem afflicting all is internal. It is like a virus. And under those conditions, even any attempt to kill or stop that virus can likely damage good cells!
The Celebration Movement got worse and worse, more and more bold within the Seventh-day Adventist Church. But soon there appeared to be a break in the treason. The year was about 1995. Even people supporting the new movements began to confess that there was somewhat of a turnaround in 1995. The denomination finally began to expel the new and subversive "Celebration pastors" and even some administrators. As we had mentioned before, there were and still are some good officials within the denomination. We felt confident that more and more of the good church officials were finally waking up and were beginning to see the fraudulent and even blasphemous nature of the movement. They sat through even the propaganda campaigns that were staged against those who protested this movement. This was followed by an Inquisition movement that they also sat through where worthy ministers and many people wound up being defrocked or disfellowshipped for opposing the treason. It was after this where it appeared that the good ministers in the denomination (now mostly retired or dead) were finally beginning to see the nature of the new movement.
Interestingly, many of those ministers who were defrocked for opposing the treason were forced to confess that they were given word that they were already defrocked. In other words, they were not called to be present even to speak for themselves. This is a mirrored image of the provisions contained in The Patriot Act, and the Inquisitions. Those engaged in the treason are always worried about the effect the intelligence of those protesting their treason would have on the Adventist public. In both cases of treason, like the Patriot Act and the Inquisitions, SECRECY was a very needed tool in their favor.
| BEING "DIVISIVE! ..." The prominent accusation those who infiltrated the SDA Church used against the true and faithful members. Historical lesson... Bob Trefz: Well John, another thing: Martin Luther was accused of dividing the church at the very time when it needed to be unified. The Turks were banging against at the gates of Vienna. They had swept across North Africa and up into Spain. They were threatening the very existence of Christendom. And people came to Luther and they said, "What are you doing splitting the church with your doctrine at this very critical hour when we need church unity above all else?" And Martin Luther said, "Our safety lies in obedience to the Word." -- Dr. Bob Trefz in a video-taped interview. |
The turmoil was intense and still has not completely stopped. The denominational leaders then used a different tactic. In the height of the turmoil, they began to acknowledge that the turmoil exists. What did they say was the remedy? THEY SAID THAT THE CHURCH NEEDED TO UNIFY. They claimed that the church was then divided. The solution is unity. At a time of such turmoil, the church needs unity above all else. Written material was already published stating that those who refused to change were the cause of the turmoil. Now they called upon all to unify. What did that mean? To give you an understanding of what that meant, all you need to know is that they sent out more ministers even then to demand that the churches change. To unify meant that the independent ministries and all who support them--all the veteran members--had to give up opposing their treason and accept the Inquisition laid within their denomination. They then made it a horrible crime to be accused of being DIVISIVE. This same scenario has happened on a number of different occasions EVEN AGAINST DIFFERENT CHURCHES OTHER THAN THE SEVENTH-DAY ADVENTIST CHURCH.
We
finally saw some light at the end of the tunnel indicating that the
Church was waking up to the treason. We don't know exactly what
happened that made a difference in 1995 where, to this day, the movement
is not so bold. The movement still hangs on, because we are
dealing with the infiltrating Jesuits. But even the name
"Celebration Church" is largely discouraged as a means yet to still
accomplish their endeavors against the body. The good ministers
obviously made a difference. But this is what we believed happened
in their perceptions. Upon viewing all the trouble that was
caused, including the loss of even revenue to the church, we perceive
that the good ministers within the denomination finally said, "HOLY
SMOKES! YOU KNOW WHO CAUSED ALL OF THIS???"
Dear reader: do you have any idea who caused the whole thing? Take a look at the picture of the stickman just to the left. Remember that all the trouble started with leaders who were so wishy-washy and timid that they could not decide who is right or wrong between touchy issues? These are the ones we are describing that did all this! These are the ones who wound up running even an inquisition type movement to get rid of their enemies who represented the majority of the church. These were the guys who targeted the youth of the church with confusion, and then strange principles, and even used principles of hypnotism against the Adventist people. They used Neuro Linguistic Programming techniques against the members. The Dr. Jekylls became Mr. Hydes. These are the ones now claiming that no Adventist can even quote from the bible nor any other source of material to contradict their even unannounced demands! YES!! All you have to do is to check historical Protestant documentation on the tactics of the Jesuits, and you will be able to understand what has happened to the Seventh-day Adventist Church.
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