ADDRESSING THE JESUIT CLAIM OF TERROR BECAUSE OF PLAGIARISM!
Created 09/09/2006; Updated 06/15/2008: Updated text added in blue!
If you were to check the internet, you would notice there are many more websites that attack the Adventist Church than supports it. We contend that these attack websites are created by the Jesuits.
One main habit the Jesuits have is their constant tirades that the so-called
crime of "Plagiarism," can make them die of a heart attack. And yet they
keep storming even discussion forums and tracking people they constantly claim
are "kooks." They constantly keep telling people on the internet who
merely disagrees with them that they have mental problems. They never
prove this, and when asked to address dialogue in order to ask and answer
questions, they refuse and just persistently post insults and psychiatric,
pharmaceutical and fashion-designing diagnoses. They claim we are nuts, we
need to go back on our prescription medications, and we need to adjust our
"tin-foil hats."
We have already shown
postings of Jesuits on the internet telling us that all non-Catholics must be
persecuted, tortured and killed, and this did not bother these same people a
bit.
http://www.TheirSecrets.info/AC/AppealChapI.htm The only thing that
bothered them about this situation is that people were exposing it. This is quite a value
system typical of a power that had not changed since the Inquisitions and as
even was documented by Foxe's Book of Martyrs! But let's now go into the
meat of their arguments and present to you, dear readers, another group of
people that the Jesuits must go wild about, must hate and must condemn: THE
APOSTLES OF CHRIST!
They keep buzzing around the internet everywhere, declaring that Ellen G. White, believed by most Adventists to be a prophet of God, is a false prophet because she wrote historical accounts that others had already written, sometimes word for word in her works. While they even call her delusional and insane, they spend so much time even in elaborate websites to show they cannot sleep while the memory of her remains (she died in 1915) that just their pre-occupation proves she is God's instrument. In this work we find out if this is indeed proof that she is not a prophet of God, or that she is a false prophet as they claim. We examine the Apostles of Christ based upon the same charge constantly leveled against Ellen G. White by the Jesuits and others over the internet and elsewhere...
[The word "prophet" generally means someone who can see things in the future, and not the other way around. Historians can see things in the past. That is more their office, but a prophet is different. One doesn't need inspiration to look backward and be a historian. Looking into the future, that is the more potent definition to the authority of a prophet. (It was not a crime in Ellen White's day to copy from the works of others--referred to today as PLAGIARISM. The original authors of works at that time were usually rather flattered if someone copied from their works).]
Here is material from an audiobook lecture given by Professor Bart D. Ehrman, under the Teaching Company. The Teaching Company records lectures from the best classrooms in the United States and offers them as audiobooks to paying customers. Here is what Professor Ehrman had to say as he was giving an overview of the New Testament:
Lecture: 1st
Lecture of 5
Subject: The New Testament Overview
Under the Teaching Company
audio book collection:
http://www.teach12.com/teach12.asp
You find the same basic story [the general stories of the life of Christ] in Matthew, Mark and Luke. Sometimes within the basic story you have exact accounts in Matthew, Mark and Luke, where there are verbatim agreements--you have the same story, word for word agreement.
The only explanation for why you can have for why you have this word for word agreement, in the opinion of most scholars,
is that one of these gospels is being used as a source for the other two. In other words, there must be copying going on.[What a strange generation who have been booby-trapped into believing that prophets can't copy the works of other even historians, and if they do, they are not PROPHETS?!! A historian doesn't need divine power to know what happened in history! No such power is needed to look back! Neither does a prophet, neither do you!]
I sometimes have difficulty convincing my students that if you have three accounts of the same event that are in the same words, somebody has to be copying somebody else.
And so the way I try to convince these nineteen and twenty year olds of this is, I do this little exercise where I come into the class a couple minutes late, make sure everybody is there, and I fiddle around in front of the class and I turn on the overhead projector and I put down my briefcase and I roll up my sleeves and I do a few things. And then I ask everybody in the class to take out a pen and paper and to write down everything they see me do in the last three minutes.
And so the students, they, all 400 of them, write down what they've just seen me do. And then I take four volunteers. Collect four papers. And I said, "Now, I want you all to do a synoptic comparison. I'm going to read what each of these sources had to say and I want to know whether you have a sentence that is exactly like someone else's."
And so then I do a comparison of these four accounts for which they described what they've seen me do, and in all of my years of doing this--15 or 16 years of doing this--I've never yet ever had anybody with two sentences exactly the same.
And so then I asked my students, "What would you think would happen if I took up two of these pieces of paper and had two paragraphs that were verbatim-the same: exactly alike? They said, "Well, somebody copied off of someone else." Yeah exactly! Somebody copied off from someone else.
Now imagine I didn't do that today. Suppose I waited 30 or 40 years [here referring to the time it took for the actions of Christ to even be placed in written form: There was a massive delay in putting into writing or documenting the life of Christ. One reason for this was because the people of that time thought that the end was then and there was no need to write or document the life of Christ for the benefit of advancing generations], and instead of asking you to write down what happened that day in class, I asked friends of yours that you had told about what had happened in class [scholars say that the disciples actually didn't personally write the Gospels, but that witnesses who heard them and understood what they said and believed did: verbal tradition (their minds were able to much more accurately remember things in those days than our present abilities.], and I got two accounts and they were exactly the same, what would you assumed had happened?
There's always some wiseguy in the back row raises his hand and says, "It's a miracle!"
Well so, those are the two options actually. It's either a miracle, or else somebody is copying somebody else.
Before you therefore get fooled by the enemies of the Gospel in the last days in prophecy, you need to understand how inspiration works and how the gift of prophecy works, or else you will be overcome in deception and then ultimately lost!