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Ted McMillan
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 posted 10-30-2005 07:03 PM
     
Updated 04/21/2008: Examples of common attacks against Ellen
G. White on the
home page.
Every one who attacks Ellen White, always winds up attacking
the other prophets also, AND EVEN CHRIST HIMSELF!
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Is the
Adventist Church giving the message entrusted to her correctly?
[As we near the close
of time, there will be greater and still greater external parade
of heathen power; heathen deities will manifest their signal
power, and will exhibit themselves before the cities of the
world; and this delineation has already begun to be fulfilled.
By a variety of images the Lord Jesus represented to John the
wicked character and seductive influence of those who have been
distinguished for their persecution of God's people. All need
wisdom carefully to search out the mystery of iniquity that
figures so largely in the winding up of this earth's history. .
. . In the very time in which we live, the Lord has called His
people and has given them a message to bear. He has called them
to expose the wickedness of the man of sin who has made the
Sunday law a distinctive power, who has thought to change times
and laws, and to oppress the people of God who stand firmly to
honor Him by keeping the only true Sabbath, the Sabbath of
creation. . . .
The perils of the last days are upon us, and in our work we are
to warn the people of the danger they are in...
[Does this include political and economic
movements also? If we showed the people why America is now
acting haywire and they are suffering so, would it even touch
deeply into their own self-interests so
they can understand the value of the solution or the Good News? or should we be interested
in being like all the other churches, drifting without identity
to the imminent time of disaster telling
an irreligious world what they've heard before, only that God
loves them? Couldn't the bible then have done the same and
just left the four Gospels for all to read ONLY? Why the
Revelation, Daniel and the prophecies? How would we feel
after sudden disaster comes and America is overrun by foreign
troops and shocked at a dramatic change in our own troops,
turning to monsters literally overnight, when then even the
irreligious world would wonder what was the actual value of our
religion?...]
Let not the solemn
scenes which prophecy has revealed be left untouched. If our
people were half awake, if they realized the nearness of the
events portrayed in the Revelation, a reformation would be
wrought in our churches, and many more would believe the
message. We have no time to lose; God calls upon us to watch for
souls as they that must give an account. -- Maranatha, pg. 140.]
Why then does
inspiration present this about the people of God during the Time
of Trouble such as never was:
Jeremiah 30:6
Ask ye now, and see whether
a man doth travail with child? wherefore do I see every man with
his hands on his loins, as a woman in travail, and all faces are
turned into paleness?
7 Alas! for that
day is great, so that none is like it: it is even the time of
Jacob's trouble; but he shall be saved out of it.
Why no more peace in the soul?
Because horrible terror, disaster and carnage like never before
is in front of the faces of the saints.
But they already endured disasters before,
and, through the power of God were able to keep peace in the
soul. Why is it different this time? Here's the
answer:
Evil angels then
crowd around them telling them the truth about themselves:
"Much of what you see now, O goody-two-shoes IS DUE TO YOUR
OWN NEGLECT!"]
Alright
Jackson. We have all seen your points and your points have
been repeated and time is wasting. I would like to try you a
bit on this topic. You have not addressed the issues that
Susan has brought. I have been watching this discussion
because the topic does have something to do with me.
[Notice here now as I go into discussion even for my own
benefit and seek to get some answers from Jackson. Notice
then what he does in response to compare with the people we
documented on the internet who even told us that all
non-Catholics must die...]
You claim that the Spirit of Prophecy says not to "rail
against" governments or fight them. The writeup we are
constructing doesn't even suggest to fight against any
government. It talks about the hopelessness of such an attempt
both for the power of the government and for the message. It
focuses on the people protecting themselves.
I do however remember the Spirit of Prophecy talking about
Adventists being charged to let the people to know and
understand the danger that they are in. There is the judgment
and the role all governments will play against it.
There is the Mark of the Beast. We have learned that the
Adventist interpretation of the Mark of the Beast, though
true, is not complete. No one will, according to Revelation
14, burn in hell day and night merely for breaking the
Sabbath. We found that what will happen will be that the
government will use all her power to even force people to
condemn the commandment-keeping crowd. She will use terror of
every sort. Although she will demand that everyone show
complete contempt for commandment-keepers, all she really has
to even do is to get anyone to nod their head in declaration
that commandment-keepers are evil with others looking on.
Those looking on will then work to destroy them and thus, THE
GUILT OF BLOOD will fall upon all who are not prepared and who
do not keep the commandments.
Question: Is the world supposed to be alerted about this?
Will the government be involved?
Now, if you conclude that the people need to know this,
exactly how have you been alerting them. So far all we see is
desperate attempts for you to stop others from doing this.
Want your answer. Don't ruin precious time now, nor your
reputation on this.
We have a message that everyone will find interesting. That
is, even the irreligious. If they even like the idea of living
in the country and try it out, when they see the destruction
they will be very impressed and will realize that the message
indeed is from God.
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 posted 10-31-2005 08:15 AM
[Notice that
some questions and points were given to Jackson for the
edification of all. What is Jackson going to do with even
respect to the history of this forum? By the results you
will be able to tell where he comes from...]Tom,
I
have presented the clear word from the SOP on this subject.
The admonitions given are timeless. The argument against my
SOP quotes was that they did not apply today. That is an
argument that is ridiculous on its face and devious in its
intent.
We know that that the real enemy is the Catholic church and
Apostate Protestanism. They will force Congress to pass laws
against Sabbath keeping (Sunday laws).
Our message is to prepare a people to avoid the mark of the
beast and be able to stand in the Investigative judgment. That
is what the 3 angels' messages are all about. We want to win
people to our position ,and we don't want to hinder the work
by casitng dispersions , maligning character and attaching
sinister motives to individual authority figures. That kind of
talk belies our claim to be representting Christ.
[This is not only a lie, but the Jesuit is working to
malign our characters. There is a PHYSICAL message also of
warning to go to the people about horrible destruction coming.
You don't just give the Three Angels
Messages without physically showing that you believe horrible
disasters will take place upon heavily populated cities all over
the world by making physical preparation to leave them, and by
desperately warning the people about these events, even aiding
them in knowledge for survival and treating the sick. You
have a responsibility both in teaching the people and acting
out--literally showing them by action that you believe disaster
is coming. The goal should be to get as many as possible
into safe places. Whether they believe the message or not,
once their feet are planted on safer soil, they would see the
disasters themselves without being literally involved, and they
would then with gratitude more believe the message. The
more people who die as victims without being directly and boldly
forewarned will be the less who will take the side of the truth.
The more we evade the responsibility to inform the people of
what is happening even with the infiltration will be the more
events in the future will falsely implicate God's people for
horrible crimes of terror, as the infiltrators commit crimes or
perform acts to disgrace the body. The more human beings
who then believe God's people are the cause of the crimes and
acts of terror, will be the more they will seek to destroy them.
The more who seek to destroy them will be the more who will bear
the penalty of receiving the Mark of the Beast. You
don't wait till all members even come to Revelation seminars or
membership to the Adventist Church to warn
the world about these
things. When they get into church membership, the
denomination will suppress that message anyway as what has been
happening that caused much turmoil into the denomination.
Neither are the arguments presented by Jackson new. These
arguments are not as old as the ones demanding that all
non-Catholics must die, but if you know any kind of history, it
will be just as persistent.] Please don't tell me that we cannot follow the inspired
counsel given us on this subject
and still be able to
adequately warn the world.. We can and must do both or the
Lord will not bless our work.
[We can and have, like every Revelation Seminar does.
But that is likely not to be seen by despots. Revelation
seminars indeed tell us what the United States government
is going to do.] So put out any warnings you like, but don't go aginst the
plain, clear, timeless counsel that our church has given us on
this subject.
I'm sure you can find a way to do both.
I am leaving today on an out of country mission trip, so i
cannot pursue this subject any further just now. I will say
,however,that it is rather disconserting for me to have to
defend myself and "my reputation" (your words)for presenting
the inspired testimonies to a fellow Adventist who is
willfully and stubborn violating them.
It is the reputation of Adventism that we should be
concerned with, so let's get back on message and diligently
follow the inspired counsel given us and stop making excuses
for not doing so.
[This is clearly a Jesuit, or is plain stupid. He is
surely not worried about his reputation, because he doesn't have
one. Exactly what is it that was asked of the man?]
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posted 10-31-2005 10:31 AM
No place
for intolerant people here. If you heard the clear statements
that I made to come back with your intolerant repeats ignoring
the questions and statements made, you need to find a Jesuit
forum.
You make assumptions? So can we!
If you can't figure out the questions we have given and
figure out that we required that you no longer bring back your
intolerant repeats, then we know you can never interpret what
the Spirit of Prophecy says.
You deliberately wasted our time again. It is time for you
to move on!
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posted 10-31-2005 05:50 PM
[SDAzeal now
enters to enhance his reputation also. Check out the
language used so that you can understand that this person is
well acquainted with the history of this forum. Does he
know there has been a continued complaint that participants must
answer questions and not waste time by giving the runaround?...]Ted,
Jackson has been a solid poster on this forum and is a
faithful Seventh day Adventist. You and your paranoid
delusions have gone too far and are alienating even your
closest brothers. I cannot stay on a forum that is so
self-destructive and a disgrace to the name of Seventh day
Adventist.
Even if it is not time for Jackson to move on, I feel I
have outgrown this childish forum and have better things to do
with my mind than use it in support of that which serves the
aims of the enemy and stands in the way of our historic
Seventh day Adventist message and mission.
I'll be praying for you and your friend Susan.
God
bless,
Sdazeal (5 stars)
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Ted McMillan
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 posted 10-31-2005 07:55 PM
When you
can prove what you have said, you can come back. Jackson was
wasting time with repeats, and I fully expected you to come
with the same. I gave discussion and he ignored it completely.
You Jesuits are not dumb. Why then can't you see simple issues
and simple questions.
[Notice from the link below
that our government leaders, claiming to have the right to
interrogate prisoners secretly and even harshly, are also
increasingly having difficulty answering the simplest questions,
and, in the example here with former Attorney General Alberto
Gonzalez, are literally conditioning the free American people to
get used to this. The rules of the Patriot Act makes sure
that people like Jackson and SDAzeal would not have to face the
"back-talk" we are now giving them, exposing their despotism and
treason. The Patriot Act claims, like the Inquisitions and
like the Communists and Nazis, that no one is to be able to
defend himself in any way from the charges they are going to
bring against him in free countries!...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ye2afa8vvi4&eurl
I gave him time to discuss, and he played the Jesuit.
When you come back with the proof for your bigoted
accusations, you can return. Otherwise notice that Jackson was
warned several times to enter into the discussion and to stop
with the bigoted repeats.
If there is anything you guys can't understand, if you have
children, let them read for you and they will teach you what
is written.
Sdazeal,
My email is t-mac9@juno.com. When you can prove your
accusations, you may return. It is absolutely no problem
expelling so-called Christians who even contribute much to
this forum and then play the zombie and take all the readers
for fools.
I was even entering into discussion to say, "What is the
two-horned beast?" Do we have to identify him? Must not say
anything bad about him when the scriptures do? Jackson had
every opportunity to prove his case and give input. For his
reputation he merely repeated himself with his intolerant
accusations.
Have you figured out what I told him yet? What did I tell
him? With all the work I was doing to bring up discussion, he
goes into work to reply to them but then says the same bigoted
things.
If he can assume, so can I. If you can assume, so can I. I
read and saw what I said to Jackson. Jackson did also, and you
did also. If you cannot figure out what was told him then you
belong with him.
Wherever you go, don't waste the time of the readers.
I know I have expelled a few from this forum. But, even
with writing styles, I am confident that many of those who
were expelled are returns with different IDs.
Whoever can't understand the English here is neither needed
nor wanted! And it's a good thing that you mentioned Judge
Judy and Judge Mathis, Susan. If they were given this same
Jesuit runaround, they would stop the proceedings right there
and award the other person the case.
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posted 10-31-2005 08:52 PM
Sdazeal,
your statement about how he will no longer stand with my
"paranoid delusions" shows that he has watched and seen
history on this forum like the rest. They are therefore
knowledgeable of the rules. They have not yet told me that
their friends who were kicked off didn't break the rules. Then
the offenders start crying out about what I'm doing to the
community.
You told me how Jackson has contributed much to this forum,
and that is proof that he has created me and knows that it is
obvious that I have paranoid delusions. Our whole church is
changing and headed back to Rome through people who have
served it well for years. Suddenly they change pace and can't
see reason anymore. They then show that they are intolerant.
If there are any more who want to break the rules, just
come forward. It's nothing really to be expelled. All you have
to do is to break the rules. If you can't understand the
rules, this forum is a little too grown-up for you. Either
that, or it could well very be that the problem is that it is
not a Jesuit forum.
Besides all this, this thread will likely go to the Jesuit
whiny section.
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