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Here is so far one common example of participants that played the Jesuit and had to be removed from this forum system. They were asked clear questions, and, like the Jesuits on the forums who used jesuit techniques to get around the questions we were asking, these wasted our time again after being amply warned and after demonstrating knowledge of the history of this forum. Because of this we provide at least this example that all prospective members must agree to upon joining. If you neither understand nor agree to refrain from doing what the example we are to present here did, PLEASE DO NOT JOIN THIS FORUM! This is an anti-jesuit forum!

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A group committed to revealing the Gospel especially through demonstrating the truth about Adventism without all the distracting tactics used by those who are avowed to misrepresent, frame and destroy the concept. Those who are known to use distracting tactics are not welcome in this group. Anyone can join regardless of church affiliation or whether or not he or she was ever an Adventist. You must be approved before you can post on the old Egroups/Yahoogroups forum, but this is not true on the new Ultimate Bulletin Board forum. Messages on the old forum will not be viewable to the public. You have to register in order to see the messages and to post. This is not true of the new Ultimate Bulletin Board forum. All messages will be viewable to the public on the new forum.

Those who are caught using questionable tactics on any of these forum systems will be unsubscribed, and, unlike the other forums, we will be committed to making sure that documentation is given demonstrating the reason for the need of the expulsion. All those who witness underhanded tactics being played on this forum are urged to report it to any of the Board members or Moderators. Other than that, we cannot police everything that is going on.

We intend to show that the Gospel is intertwined more closely with Adventism than with any other religious concept because of her undaunting Star Trek thirst to explore and recognize all scripture even under the harassment and persecution of those who tell us they love and respect all views in individuality. She has boldly gone where no man has gone before, accepting all scripture. That is what we are here to demonstrate through discussion both with those who agree and those who do not agree.

Unlike the other forums which claim to be impartial but have shown that they are not and are therefore slanted against Adventism, we will favor Adventism. We intend to state that forthrightly from the start. We intend to defend Adventism here with demonstration. This forum will be loosely moderated. Those who honestly disagree with Adventism will have more than their fair share of expression here, but we have found it necessary to transform this group into a moderated system. This is not only necessary to prevent suspicious tactics, but there is a necessity to curb too many topics in discussion at any one time. This trends to wear out and discourage honest seekers. We are determined to deter the pitfalls regularly found in the other forums. Some simple and basic guidelines therefore must be adhered to on this forum.

First let me state that the Jesuits make it a habit of accusing me, Ted McMillan, with calling people Jesuits just because they disagree with me. After such an accusation, I would challenge them to show evidence of this. They would then use their Jesuit training to make circular arguments and waste all our time. It therefore has already been understood that anyone who accuses me, Ted McMillan, of calling people Jesuits just because they disagree with me, will be banned from this forum IMMEDIATELY. From then he will be allowed to be reinstated once he can prove his accusation. This way our time is saved. So far, NOT ONE JESUIT ventured to provide evidence of his accusation after he was kicked off! This forum has over 200 members. It will be VERY difficult to prove that all of those members agree with me the forum owner. No one can even prove that the next administrator agrees with me in everything.

The remaining rules are:

1. THE FORUM RULES WILL BE UPDATED FROM TIME TO TIME AND IT IS YOUR RESPONSIBILITY TO BE FAMILIAR WITH THEM. IN LIGHT OF THAT, YOU MUST AGREE THAT YOU MAY BE UNSUBSCRIBED AT ANY TIME AND FOR ANY REASON AT OUR DISCRETION.

2. You must become familiar with the web site on issues or topics that are SEALED. There are some issues we do not allow discussion on unless someone has a unique argument against our conclusions. Any such unique argument has to be presented before the Administrator in order to allow for an opening up of discussion. Typically, articles on the web site that are marked "SEALED" are not allowed to be discussed on any of the forums unless unique arguments are presented.

3. You must agree that the posts that you put on the new Ultimate Bulletin Board forum system, and maybe even the old one MAY well become viewable to the public, and that you must not have an issue with any of the staff or posters of any of these forum systems if others view what you have written here or if what you have written here is posted somewhere else in context.

4. On any of these groups, you MUST make sure that if you present principles that all should adopt, you MUST yourself be bound by those principles.

A. If you tell people that they must focus on Christ only in "Christ Plus Nothing!" you had better not post about anything else on this forum. Post about Christ's life, His works, His parables, His family and friends, etc., but NOT about anything else!

B. If you tell people that they should respect all views that differ from theirs, or that no man's view is to be considered truth when others may disagree, or that no man is to lord his opinions over on anybody else, you had better make sure that you don't send posts telling us what is good or bad, right or wrong, in or out, up or down, appropriate or stale. If you tell this forum that no one should lord his opinions above that of others, and you are yet found pushing ideas upon us or any person without placing those ideas in an air of open debate or uncertainty, you will ultimately be unsubscribed.

C. If you tell this forum that we should never indulge in a critical spirit and must never condemn or put somebody down, you had better not be found using bad adjectives against anyone or writing anything even suggestive of a derogatory nature against someone else's motives, character or anything else. If you do these things listed, YOU DON'T BELONG HERE! YOU BELONG SOMEWHERE ELSE!

D. If you are found posting something that is demonstrably proven to be deception: a willful intent to lie or deceive, you will ultimately be unsubscribed. Your views may very well be challenged by someone else who may be intent on proving that you are wrong. You may be confronted, and after you are, unlike the other forums, you may be charged to respond to the pointed questions of those who would challenge your view or views. If you refuse to answer, you may be prohibited from posting till you do answer or wind up being unsubscribed altogether. THIS RULE WILL BE IMPOSED AT OUR DISCRETION. You will not be allowed to evade any questions presented to you. An alternative to answering would be to state that you just don't know, or to apologize for being wrong. These principles will be enforceable according to the ability of any poster, moderator or administrator who may view the messages and bring them before the Board. Board members have to see these things for them to take action.

E. If you post here that people must have no concerns because Christ is in control and yet you post your concerns, you will be dealt with. In other words, if your post insinuates another person's concerns should not be considered because Christ is in control, then you yourself had better not post any concerns you might have, indicating this principle does not include you.

If you tell people that they should merely be concerned about their own spiritual lives, and you yet are concerned about changing the behavior or opinions of anyone else, or with the internal affairs of the Adventist Church, you will ultimately be unsubscribed. If you tell people that they must celebrate or even celebrate 24 hours a day and 7 days a week and rejoice and you are yet posting anything at all on any of these forums, or fighting with anyone whose views or interpretations differ from yours, you may be unsubscribed. It will be deemed that you are not celebrating hard enough to be noticing and being concerned about what other people are doing.

5. You are asked to post consistently with the subject header of the thread you are in, or are replying to. We want quality and organized messages going into the archives. If this issue with respect to threads becomes a problem, the moderator may delete your message(s) and ask you to repost them either on an appropriate thread, or on a new and independent thread.

6. You are asked to refrain from idle posts containing either silly commentary or frivolous symbols, or gestures that otherwise do not pertain to discussion. You are to understand that you are solely responsible for the content of what you write here. Naturally, profanity, obscenity and other intolerable actions must not be found in your posts.

7. You are asked to use your real names when registering on this forum if you have a free internet service provider. Other than that, you may use whatever handle you want to use EXCEPT THAT IT MUST NOT BE SACRILEGIOUS NOR TRIVIAL NOR ARE YOU TO USE ANY NAME THAT TRIVILIZES THE AWESOME TOPICS EXAMINED ON THIS SYSTEM. Other than that, we do not care who or what you are. We do not request any private information. We are not in the business of identifying subscribers. Your posts are what actually counts. We are not Nazis nor Communists. We don't intend on seeking you out nor identifying you to the authorities, nor anything of that nature, nor anything else.

8. There will be certain topics that can be created on the forum system that will only allow for people to post media clippings from newspapers, magazines, books, or other form of media with the appropriate references. This is to allow for readers to see documentation on certain issues away from the comments and opinions on others on the system. Such topics you can create if you start the title like this:

*[CLIPS] <Title of the Topic or Thread>

When you create topics or threads like this, commentary or discussion for the most part is NOT ALLOWED. Descriptive comments must be very brief IF AT ALL.

If you want to post commentary about the particular subject or news clipping on the topic, start another topic without the "*[CLIPS]" on it and then you can discuss what is on it.

This is no frills, get down to business here!

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