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http://youtube.com/comment_servlet?all_comments&v=3xorQkMLWK4&fromurl=/watch%3Fv%3D3xorQkMLWK4 A propagandist on Youtube attacks Ellen White claiming that the scriptures itself says we don't need anything else other than the perfect bible in 2 Peter. Watch what happens when he is asked on the comments below the video the simplest of questions by me challenging that view. My posts are under the name "tmack1238." He is asked if that was the case, whether or not the book of Revelation came later than 2 Peter. He then deliberately evades the question over and over. You will see another user "NicholasPOGM." That is the same Nicholas who has an extroardinary website exposing the Papacy, who attacked me out of the clear blue for exposing Ted Seeber telling us all non-Catholics must die, and made sure he paid no attention to his words of death! WANNA HAVE SOME IDEA OF WHAT THE GLOBAL ELITES WHO PULL ALL THE STRINGS ARE LIKE? Please watch this awesome video of a former insider to the political and financial elites. He gives a story of what America first and the global population next is about to face. Notice the eerie similarity in what he is saying compared to the conclusions we have come to based upon scripture, then upon world events and the actual quotations of prominent men in politics. The author also gives clues and tips on how to save your lives and what to do with your money to prevent from being victimized. He used to work directly with the political and financial elites, but had to part from them based upon what he found out about them. THIS IS A MUST SEE! Again, although we can't approve of everything he says, (he says that it's best to abandon the United States because of all the nuclear issues and fallout that would come here. Inspiration has not told us to do that. Doesn't mean there will be no nuclear activity or fallout, but clearly it would not get bad enough to abandon America as if other places would be much better) he is by far not the only one who comes to similar conclusions that we come to. What would you do if the global economy fell and chaos and ruin are everywhere, then a very wealthy power offers to finance the world out of this terrible situation, under conditions. What if that power is the Vatican. (And who would know the Vatican itself is the ultimate cause of the global financial crisis?) What would happen then if you already notice people preaching that the Papacy is the Antichrist Beast whose number is 666 that will take over the world, and this preaching actually gets stronger as Rome offers to finance the world back out of its misery? What then if that funding from the Vatican back to prosperity at least as we knew it, becomes threatened by these people preaching these things? YOU WILL HAVE A VERY TUMULTUOUS CHOICE TO MAKE! Are you a Christian? Did you have a relative who was not, but who would smoke, drink, curse, chase women around everywhere and use drugs? Did he die and go into a Christ-less grave? Do you often look back and pity him? WARNING!... Things are different with you now. The Antichrist is about to unveil himself before the globe and start a One World Government!! God's people will expose the dangers of this One World Government. Soon virtually every government on earth will condemn them because of this. They will be framed and misrepresented on every turn! The governments of the world will then force everyone living to drink of their blood figuratively AND LITERALLY! They will demand very strongly that everyone condemn them. If you refuse to kill, oppose, or even merely condemn them, the governments of the world will penalize you to the utmost, even to torture and death, making you to share their fate. If you live under the power of God and stand this great test, refusing to condemn them in any way despite the harsh penalties, you will receive a reward in heaven FAR greater than those before who did not have to endure this supreme persecution! You will be among them: you will be part of them. If you fail to live under the power of God and seek holiness to meet the terrible future, then you may as well stop pitying that relative who smoked, drank, cursed and chased women everywhere. His punishment will be many times more lenient than what you will receive! HE WILL NOT BE DECLARED GUILTY OF THE BLOOD OF THE SAINTS!...
YOU WILL BE!!
Revelation 14:9
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the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his
hand, As the Sabbath has become the special point of controversy throughout Christendom and religious and secular authorities have combined to enforce the observance of the Sunday, the persistent refusal of a small minority to yield to the popular demand will make them objects of universal execration. -- Ellen G. White, The Great Controversy, pg. 615 (1911). Those religious bodies who refuse to hear God's messages of warning will be under strong deception and will unite with the civil power to persecute the saints. The Protestant churches will unite with the papal power in persecuting the commandment-keeping people of God. --Manuscript Releases, Vol. 14, 162 (1899). MAJOR DILEMMA AND IMPASSABLE BARRIER! ONLY THOSE AIDED BY SUPERNATURAL POWER FROM ABOVE WILL STAND! |
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See an amazing discussion with a literal super-terrorist from the Dark Ages. He will argue against liberty. Why is he so bold? It is because, as we have told you, the societies of the world--and especially the United States--are heavily infiltrated with people who think just like him. See the discussion HERE. Worst public death threats as propagandists tell us and our troops they are dying to defend our freedoms, then later and with much satisfaction confessing that a horrible period of terror and blood is coming! Examine part of it here!... http://www.TheirSecrets.info/AC/AppealChapBeliefnet.htm
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http://www.TheirSecrets.info/AC/AppealChapLeoWest.htm 05/01/2008: Donna Kupp, a Jesuit, enters to attack our defense of health reform on the newsgroups. She uses the typical unscrupulous tactics that identify her as a Jesuit, so we then introduce her to the bold threats of death against all non-Catholics. Watch what she does to ignore it, and watch how she convicts herself! |
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"FORMER SEVENTH-DAY ADVENTIST MINISTER" ATTACKS ELLEN G. WHITE!
"Former Seventh-day Adventist minister" from 1979-1990, a Sydney Cleveland, attacks Ellen G. White! From his book, "White-Washed," Sydney Cleveland, anxious to prove Ellen White a false prophet, proves himself to actually be one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvsK8ADctoc&feature=related HE ATTACKS: Here from the following quotation, he tries to prove Ellen G. White is a false prophet by predicting wrong about Old Jerusalem being built up. She says...
Sydney Cleveland maintains here that Ellen White's prophecy is incorrect. He claimed that Old Jerusalem clearly has been built up to this very day. ANSWER: Ellen White said we must not make special efforts to go win the Jews over there over to Christ with the thought in mind that they will be saved as a nation and be like they used to be under Moses, where they were supremely powerful under God, feared no other nation, but all the other nations feared them. Every one of those who viewed Israel like that to this day, believed they were to specially go over to Israel to win the Jews over to Christ, with the thought in mind that this will make them be like they were during the days of Moses, going about conquering nations miraculously again and that they would be the literal 144,000. The pastor who is attacking is taking advantage of the idea that Adventists and Christians were going over there to win the Jews over so that they can build up their cities with brick and mortar. It was always commonly known that those who had a vision of converting the Jews over there were doing it with the thought of building their hearts and former power back into favor with God so they can be like they were even when they conquered kingdoms of giants. Not their bricks and mortar. Ellen White's statement is correct. She did not say that "Jerusalem" would not be built up. She said that "OLD JERUSALEM" would not be built up. Far more a question of her former status than the condition of her buildings or city. Old Jerusalem would not be built up therefore necessitating Christians to go over there and introduce Christ to them. Introducing them to Christ is not to build their houses, lands or city back again. People wanted to go there and build "Old Jerusalem up" in order to make God accept them as a nation as when Moses led them in ancient history.
ANOTHER ATTACK: Here he quotes statements from Sister White claiming that she will be alive when Christ comes and will be caught up to meet Jesus in the air without tasting death. First let's set the common premise in order. They usually give us the following biblical passage:
They then claim if a prophet claims anything is going to happen--just one thing--and it doesn't, that person is a FALSE PROPHET! See what it says above? Now, from the words you see there, does it say that someone who prophesies and then the event doesn't come, was never a prophet before? Does it then say that someone who prophesies incorrectly means that person will never be a prophet and prophesy truthfully in the future? Obviously the answer is no. But what Ellen White attackers are saying is that even if a single prediction doesn't come to pass (or appears not to have) that is proof the person is not a prophet and can never be.
ANSWER: True prophets were not always technically correct in everything they say. A common point where they were mostly always wrong was their belief for when the Lord would come the second time. Virtually all of them believed that their time was the last days and that Christ would come while they were yet alive. We found that this was the typical belief that the Lord well tolerated, often without correcting them. The Disciples of Christ also well believed this, and even believed that Christ was there to install His eternal kingdom and free them from the domination of Rome. That's why the Disciples were eager to have the greatest place in Christ's kingdom. If the author here claims Ellen White was a false prophet for making that statement, then he was, as is common with all who are actually false prophets, actually claiming the same against most other true prophets. Here is the keynote example:
Here, the Apostle Paul makes the same
claim, and shows he believed at that time that Christ would come
in his day and that he would be alive to meet Him.
The attacker claims this is proof of false prophecy and therefore proof that Ellen White is a false prophet. So much did she believe that Christ was coming in her day, she actually claimed, according to the wording, that there were some actually there who would not die before Christ comes. Is the accusation therefore correct? If that is true, get a load of another person who would be, by his own words, a false prophet...
Why Christ said this may be better explained in our Adventism's Perplexities Answered pages if we even touched on that or even could. The expression may well even be a figure of speech that can be taken more than one way. Ellen White did genuinely believe that Christ was coming in her day! But nonetheless, the man actually said that Christ was a false prophet! We have been finding out more and more that the Lord Himself arranged it so that every time Ellen G. White is accused by a false prophet, he Himself technically receives the brunt of the attack along with some others of His prophets, apostles or saints! It will be the path of anyone who determines to follow even in ecclesiastical treason. |
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to learn how we know that it is the societies of the Vatican who are
attacking the US Government, and the Adventist Church and truth from
the inside and outside? Well here are some resources that can help open
your eyes:
Step One: Study this link. Step Two : Study this resource and the progressive links that continue the message. Step Three: Study this resource the same way. Step Four*NEW*: Repeat the same with this. This link reveals startling information about the actual origins of Communism and Nazism. Step Five: Study the links on this webpage that you have not read before. Step Six : Visit this link, for it is the Jesuit Dialogues Page of this website showing the tactics the people of the Papacy use to accomplish their ends as they try to push their ideas on the Adventist people on SDA internet discussion forums. Step Seven : Shows more confirmation of who the Antichrist is. Read this article and progress to the next. |
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Here you can learn about certain very important issues that surround and support the freedoms that you now enjoy and how they are being attacked. On this page is also documentation about the secret armies of the Papacy on the Jesuit Infiltration and Jesuit Dialogues links. You will learn how they have infiltrated every fiber of society for radical change today, how to detect them, and how they are responsible for most every political trouble taking place in the world today and historically. |
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